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  2. Are Trading Card Games / Collectible Card Games Dying?

    I wouldn't say Pokemon is a savior, just one of the games that will probably continue to do fine should the others die out. The real savior could've been Dragon Ball Super, but they had to turn to the dark side. I don't think the sky is falling but at the end of the day if these companies fail, let them. They don't want to adapt and be less greedy, teach them a lesson. Whether they learn anything or not is a different story and we all know they won't.
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  4. Are Trading Card Games / Collectible Card Games Dying?

    Pokémon TCG stopped being fun for me when Stage 1 and Stage 2 decks were no longer competitive with the constant push for Basics/EX's in an effort to oversaturate more product with Full Arts/Tin Promos. It was one of the main reasons why I got into Cardfight!! Vanguard 6 years ago during the precipice of a mass exodus of Yu-Gi-Oh! players jumping into Vanguard as well as MTG. It was also at a time in which those same former Yu-Gi-Oh! players that got into MTG were likely the majority of that 40% demographic who quit the game entirely due to the barrier of entry for both Standard and Modern. I personally don't know If Pokémon TCG has gotten any better since Roaring Skies and Ancient Origins, as I haven't really competed in any serious Standard/Modified event since running a Stage 2 Blaziken deck that got curb stomped by Basic EX's due to the Rare Candy nerf and more Item Lock from Vileplume and Seismitoad EX. Afterwards I've basically borrowed decks from friends of mine in order to play in League Challenges which was pretty fun at the time but was nothing like what Battle Roads was back in the day when we had a much larger player attendance. The Diamond/Pearl/Platinum and HeartGold/SoulSilver eras were really the height of the game's success IMO. So no I don't see Pokémon TCG as the potential savior of Trading Card Games / Collectible Card Games simply because Pokémon Company International was as out of touch as Wizards of the Coast / Hasbro are with MTG right now. I think this is more of an issue in regards to corporate greed that's gotten in the way with echo chambers being created through social media outlets causing a disconnect of direct communication between companies and consumers. These companies aren't looking into reading message board forums like they used to and that's a major problem.
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    Hey everyone new to the community of Dragon Ball Super but have played the game for maybe a week pretty fun.
  7. Black Mischievous 17 anybody try yet?

    So last night, I found this: This is Kelly's build. I made it today because I'm just going to be straight honest, I was going to take Drawku to the Dennis Games this Saturday. ...but as I feared, even with my crazy build, the simple fact of the matter is that Black Mischievous 17 is a HARD counter to Goku unless I get extremely lucky with my counter-counter cards. I have a couple other decks I have tried against it that can perform decently well, but not as consistently as I want. This build is GOOD. I'm super worried about it. If you can force 17 to level early and he never draws his Namek Ball 2 to de-level himself, it's pretty much GG in your favor. But you either have to land an early dig or draw Earth Ball 2 quickly (yes I am rocking EDB2 because of this JUST to force 17 to level). Now I'm completely unsure if I want to go with Red Ruthless Goku, Orange Retribution Garlic Jr., or Saiyan Rampaging Nappa (YOU HEARD ME RAMPAGING). I've been playtesting all day today and it's making my head hurt. There has to be SOMETHING I can do. I don't know how many people actually have set 10 cards ready to go yet, but I feel like running Goku is suicide if a hard counter exists. I might stomp everybody else, but this 17 deck... EDIT: The ol' Adept Gohan would probably do quite well actually, but I am NOT using the deck I literally used in the last tournament I went to, which was even at THE SAME STORE.
  8. I'm testing videl mischievous right now. And so far I have to agree. I chose videl because I thought she'd be enough to patch up some of the damage issues with her AT setting. She also controls really well. However, so far what I have found is that I control the whole game and still wind up losing in the end. Presumably just not enough damage output since it's working pretty well defensively. Maybe I just don't have the mix right yet. I'm also considering other mps. I imagine 17 would be a more extreme version. More control, less damage output. But I haven't tried it yet.
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  10. Speaking of regionals, due to the I think one that happened promos have significantly dropped. I've been eyeing the Blue Vegeito for a friend and it went from 18 usd to 8. Set 1 stuff seems to have dropped about 10 bucks, coolers are now 24 over the 34 they were.
  11. What's everyone looking forward to in gaming?

    That's quite the price increese. I bought my switch for 300 USD.
  12. Orange Adaptive No18

    My biggest, and most pressing, question. Is this deck okay on the defensive? o-O
  13. Are Trading Card Games / Collectible Card Games Dying?

    sigh The Pokemon Card Game. Owned by Nintendo (but I don't believe it is licensed by). Is going strong, and actually growing in size since previous years, with actual support for their competitions, cash prizes, and all-around just stronger interaction with their community than Wizards and Konami. And is sold god damn everywhere with decent profits. YOU JUST LISTED THE SAVIOR IN YOUR OWN HYPOTHETICAL. As said by Goo, the only sectors of the TCG/CCG community that are at risk of a huge fall as a result of MtG crashing are the sections that focus almost exclusively on MtG. And I hate to say it, but sometimes a crash is necessary within any given industry to incentivize ingenuity and development. Them crashing wouldn't be the end, but would mostly just force a shift.
  14. Are Trading Card Games / Collectible Card Games Dying?

    Force of Will isn't going to be around much longer anyway. The last few sets have been both shit and money gouging at the same time, later of which is seemingly being made worse with R3, while it's community participation is at an all time low. Once upon a time it's Reddit had 300 comments per new preview, now? Average 25. 25 comments per preview. Less than 25 people give a shit, because some people post multiple times in comment strings. FoWCo themselves are much more interested in Casters and Architect, but Casters is a complete dead zone and FoWco, in their infinite stupidity, have made a Japanese Exclusive Set. The game literally just launched. Also it's a perverted game for perverts into little girls.
  15. Are Trading Card Games / Collectible Card Games Dying?

    MTG would not be the end of TCG's and to a greater extent collectible gaming. Many of those players would continue to play and the ones that would stop playing MTG because of no official support would find other collectible games to play. The difference here is that when Atari begin to fall apart they honestly didn't have any actual competition. They were the Nintendo of their time without a Sega and later a Playstation. If Nintendo went out of business tomorrow Sony and Microsoft would still be fine and it would not negatively impact Sony or Microsoft. Nintendo players would either continue to enjoy what they already have and/or move onto something else but Sony and Microsoft would continue to survive regardless. No different from when Sega finally died as a console. Sega players either kept their Dreamcasts and/or moved on. The gaming world hardly felt the impact despite how huge Sega had been. Other games will continue to exist and some of them will actually become bigger from the fall. While the overall numbers of TCG players could drop significantly, almost 100% of that drop would come from the MTG community and would have minimal bearing on other games. It would be up to store owners to re-brand themselves. Yes, some LGS's would fall because they focus entirely on MTG and refuse to provide proper support to anything else. In my opinion, near sighted business owners deserve to fall when their only product fails, but the end of MTG would not be anywhere near the end of TCG as a whole. The big 3 would temporarily become the big 2 and in time a 3rd might rise again.
  16. What's everyone looking forward to in gaming?

    If you could find a way to buy it from somewhere else I believe the Switch is region-free. 450 AUD comes to about 340 USD rounded to the nearest 10 spot but I'm not sure how the difference is affected by Australian wages so the difference could be substantial for all I know.
  17. Are Trading Card Games / Collectible Card Games Dying?

    Back in the late 70's and early 80's Atari was doing exactly what Wizards of the Coast / Hasbro is currently doing with MTG today by constantly oversaturating product into oblivion in much the same way Atari kept releasing tons of shovelware into oblivion that affected the overall quality of the gaming merchandise they were selling. With consumers complaining about the lack of high quality video games made by Atari at the time it eventually led to the North American Video Game Crash of 1983 that propelled Nintendo into what it is today. Fast forward to 2017. We're already seeing similarities between what happened in the Video Game Industry back then to what's going on right now within the Trading Card Game / Collectible Card Game Industry. History is repeating itself only this time without a savior to help guide the Trading Card Game / Collectible Card Game Industry along like what Nintendo did for the Video Game Industry back in the early 80's. Without a savior to turn to the Trading Card Game / Collectible Card Game Industry is destined to fail where as when it came to Nintendo they were in the right place at the right time. So the likelihood of a Trading Card Game / Collectible Card Game Market Crash in the near future is very possible. In this case it would involve a crash within the Bulk Market where consumers sell off all their cards from booster box openings to their local game stores only to keep all the valuable cards they've pulled for themselves. Most businesses will buy your card collections and then sell them for the lowest price point because with larger print quantity the more they absorb risk. So the question in regards to this is whether or not If there's a shrink in the Buyer Pool that's leading to the potential rise of counterfeit cards and low card stock quality. In other words it's siphoning out cash flow from licensed product which ends up hurting local game stores and brick and mortal only venues in the long run. The question then becomes what can local game stores including brick and mortar only venues do to adapt to this situation before they lose out to local and online retailers for good? What were seeing now with current MTG sets is that collectors are actually making less money off the game than the players who lack the leverage to generate wealth for distributors and the company manufacturing the actual product. To collectors, it's Reserved List or bust.
  18. Orange Adaptive No18

    Got to try this deck the other day, the DBV was a complete waste of time because it went like a hot knife through butter. Orange Fierce Attack + Mastery + 18 Prepared + Android Attack Drill + Orange Aura Drill was just resulting in sexy attacks dealing 12ish Life Cards and they can't endure it, so I just went whole hog. I'm really tempted to try Hero 18, because all the buffs, but I really don't want to lose the 20 Ally. Orange Fierce Attack or not.
  19. What's everyone looking forward to in gaming?

    450 Aud
  20. So I thought it'd be fun to show off the special pack and do an unboxing. Hope you guys enjoy! https://youtu.be/A_0BFmBWdGU
  21. What's everyone looking forward to in gaming?

    I know some people live in different regions. Is it not $299 where you live?
  22. Black Mischievous 17 anybody try yet?

    No17 Entertained is a strange to me now I've given him a whirl. Build around him and the opponent draws cards anyway, all those nice combo pieces feel like a double edged sword. Don't build around him and he can be basically just the attack. :/
  23. What's everyone looking forward to in gaming?

    Beyonetta 3 has nearly got me on the Nintendo Train again. Just want to see the Switch be closer to 250 than 450.
  24. Black Mischievous 17 anybody try yet?

    I've not yet had the chance to really give the deck a go myself, but I've been lurking around a few of my old group chats with my mates back in Aus. From what I can tell from their conversations, the decks biggest issue seems to just be keeping up with pure beatdown decks even more so than MPPV (honestly, Black Trick Shot seems to be the saving grace in this respect since it near enough shuts down levelling for a turn alongside Black's innately controlling nature). The big issue that seems to still plague the style, which you noted, is a lack of a really solid win con beyond just playing interference. Not to say it's bad, but it always seems a bit more like you're playing a character like Ky in Guilty Gear with this kind of deck; you've got the tools necessary to win, but because you don't hit as hard, you have to play better for longer. It's been said a lot, but I can't help feeling like Black is the one style that would benefit the most from the introduction of a side-board/Sensei deck since they're just excellent at killing any specific complex strategy, but fall a bit behind when confronted with more straight-forward opponents.
  25. So the much anticipated Draft Box 1 has dropped and people are snapping them up left and right. However, much like Brad Pitt in Se7en, we had one big question...what's in the box?! Well, that's not entirely true, we all knew what would be in the box, 12 packs of set 1 and 2, a promo pack and a pack of 4 leader cards. But with people opening boxes, some new ratios have come to light. Here are some stats: Draft Box 1 12 Packs of set 1 12 Packs of set 2 1 Pack of 4 leader cards (there are 4 new leaders but each box contains 4 copies of only ONE of them) 1 Draft Rulesheet The box itself is a high quality tuck box, about 800 capacity (unsleeved) 4 Boxes in a display 6 displays in a Case * A single sealed display of 4 boxes will include one box that contains EACH of the new 4 leaders. * TP1 packs are slightly mapped, thus far a single sealed display of 4 boxes will yield either all foil or all non-foil promos. * Early reports showed some players getting steady ratios of R leaders and SRs in boxes, at a rate of 4 Leaders (2 from each set) and 6 SRs (3 from each set). My own experience has disproved this, however the ratios ARE pretty steady, split between 3-4 SRs and 2-3 R leaders of each set in each box. * Boxes CAN contain SPRs or SCR, but exact ratios per case are not yet available. * Boxes CAN contain God Packs. (I got one in my second box, it had 2 SRs and 10 Rs) Still haven't tried out a draft, but it seems like a lot of fun. Here is a run down of how it works, including some draft-specific rules: (there doesn't seem to be any difference in the included draft rules and the draft rules that have been on the website for a few months) Players are given 3 packs of Set 1 and 3 packs of set 2 to draft. (not written in the rules, but assumed) Each player is given one of the included leader cards in the draft box. Players sit in a circle and open a pack. Each player chooses a card from the pack, sets it face down in front of them and then passes the rest to the left. Repeat this until all cards are gone. SPECIAL - if you have NOT yet chosen a leader from a pack, you MUST choose a leader card. However, after that you may take one additional card from that pack (this only applies to the first leader pulled from packs). Players may not take additional leaders until ALL players have picked one from a pack. (This will likely be a non-issue as each pack in the draft box tended to have at least one UC leader card) Repeat the above process with all 6 packs (alternate to passing right on packs 2, 4 and 6) until all players have a stack of 72 cards in front of them. Players will use these cards to make a 40 card deck of battle/extra cards plus 1 leader. Any cards not used are now considered in that player's Sideboard (INCLUDING LEADERS). Between games 2 and 3, and between rounds, players can exchange cards in their deck with their sideboard (including leaders). However once leaders are revealed to start a game, players may NOT make any changes until that game is over. Suggested format is Bo3 in a round robin tournament. Winner claims the lone TP1 pack from the box.
  26. What's everyone looking forward to in gaming?

    MM7 was actually pretty good. It had a few differences that I did not necessarily like, but I enjoyed it even though it didn't make my list. It definitely beats 6,4, and 8 for me (though if I were to exclude yellow devil 7 is better than 1). Oh that's right! I think I'll play that tonight. Or maybe Xenoblade Chronicles 2...TOO MUCH AWESOME I CAN'T HANDLE IT.
  27. What's everyone looking forward to in gaming?

    So since no one else has stated it, Ballad of Champions dropped last night! Another of Nintendo's "we will now announce the release date for the DLC pack. The release will be 5...................4...3...2..". After watching the trailer, anyone who griped about the content for price on DLC can go suck it. New missions, new outfits, new weapons, new Horse equipment and A FRICKIN' GUARDIAN MOTORCYCLE. Between the new baby, work and a get-together tonight I haven't been able to dive in yet T_T
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