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Restored gohan beat empowered broly in the final  (is it still set 6?)

Some interesting decks played. No pikkon or king kai that I heard of though  (wasn't there).

Here's the top 8 according to face book: 

North Kai Top 8!

Top 8 is
Seed 1- Raymond Duvall
Namekian Knowledge Cell
Vs
Seed 8- Frank DeLuca
Saiyan Empowered Gohan

Seed 2- Tony Murry
Orange Retribution Cooler
Vs
Seed 7- Arvel Rowe
Orange Retribution Gohan

Seed 3- Derek Apfel
Namekian Knowledge Piccolo
Vs
Seed 6- Shawn Sons
Saiyan Empowered Broly

Seed 4- Matt Tambor
Namekian Restored Gohan
Vs
Seed 5- Brandon Suchan
Orange Retribution Trunks

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Wow.... So this confirms what I have been fearing...

Is nobody... TRYING???

No King Kai, no Future Gohan, no Orange 20 with Bicycle Kick?

Like is it just me or does this list look WEIRD!?

Geez not even Ruthless Trunks...

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33 minutes ago, sh0ryu_repp4 said:

Wow.... So this confirms what I have been fearing...

Is nobody... TRYING???

No King Kai, no Future Gohan, no Orange 20 with Bicycle Kick?

Like is it just me or does this list look WEIRD!?

Geez not even Ruthless Trunks...

Mid tier DBZ players are some of the most uncreative people on the planet.  Easier to let someone else come up with the next big thing and then just jump on the band wagon.  

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All this talk about broken and people avoided playing the broken lol. Yep, just as I thought. A bunch of whiny people complaining about things being broken because someone told them it was broken but not one of them wants to figure out how it's broken on their own. 

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2 hours ago, sh0ryu_repp4 said:

Wow.... So this confirms what I have been fearing...

Is nobody... TRYING???

No King Kai, no Future Gohan, no Orange 20 with Bicycle Kick?

Like is it just me or does this list look WEIRD!?

Geez not even Ruthless Trunks...

Incorrect. There were several future gohan decks  (empowered and retribution that I noted). And I believe tim batow was there with orange 20 (at least it sounded that way on Facebook. I can't confirm that for sure.) Those decks just didn't top. Supposedly more specific info on style distributions etc. Is supposed to come out at some point  (probably with top 8 deck lists).

 

Edit: and the orange trunks in top 8 was actually a sword build, not mppv. There was a cool adept 17 that had a good showing as well. 

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Found this too:

 

13 Orange
--9 Retribution
----- 2 Cooler
----- 2 Trunks
----- 2 Android 13
----- 1 Gohan
----- 1 Vegeta
----- 1 Cell
-- 1 Adaptive
----- 1 Android 20
-- 3 Adept
----- 2 Android 17
----- 1 Broly

3 Blue
-- 3 Blue Resolute
----- 1 Goku
----- 1 Tao
----- 1 Frieza

2 Black
-- 1 Conflict
----- 1 Krillin
-- 1 Perceptive
----- 1 Dr Wheelo

4 Red
-- 2 Ascension 
----- 1 Trunks
----- 1 Yamcha
-- 2 Ruthless
----- 2 Goku

9 Namekian
-- 4 Restored
----- 1 Cell
----- 3 Gohan
-- 5 Knowledge
----- 2 Piccolo
----- 3 Cell

8 Saiyan
-- 6 Empowered
----- 4 Broly
----- 1 Trunks
----- 1 Gohan
-- 1 Rampaging
----- 1 Broly
-- 1 Dynamic
----- 1 Vegeta

Style breakdown from North Kai

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1 hour ago, sh0ryu_repp4 said:

These results anger and confuse me... lol

 

4 hours ago, sh0ryu_repp4 said:

Wow.... So this confirms what I have been fearing...

Is nobody... TRYING???

No King Kai, no Future Gohan, no Orange 20 with Bicycle Kick?

Like is it just me or does this list look WEIRD!?

Geez not even Ruthless Trunks...

This coming from the guy whose last three decks were Blue Resolute Gohan, Orange Roshi, and Namekian Gohan.  Not a single original idea in those three decks.  

Nobody should be surprised at the lack of innovation/creativity on display at this event, seeing as how the game has been dead for weeks.

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45 minutes ago, The Bear said:

 

This coming from the guy whose last three decks were Blue Resolute Gohan, Orange Roshi, and Namekian Gohan.  Not a single original idea in those three decks.  

Nobody should be surprised at the lack of innovation/creativity on display at this event, seeing as how the game has been dead for weeks.

That... is exactly my point. I don't see any of the legit really good stuff that I would think I would be seeing ALOT of. That is why it confuses me.

 

Also, uncalled for much? and to be fair, yes those were my last three decks but i was also saying how good all those decks were before they started topping events. and got told i was wrong for each one... so yeah...

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4 minutes ago, Thearbiter20x6 said:

Heh...heh...heh........

These results please me.  *Slowly lurks back to trading card laboratory*

I mean yeah it's great if you go to one of these events and play an ACTUAL top tier lol

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14 minutes ago, sh0ryu_repp4 said:

I mean yeah it's great if you go to one of these events and play an ACTUAL top tier lol

I've been working and testing a...very unusual deck in tournaments.  It has done very well so far considering its...idiosyncrasies.  It has top cut every tournament it has entered except one (freaking fracking random rogue deck that happens to have the perfect tech to ruin my steeze...still only one by one life card...).  It is currently more powerful than every and set 8 will push it into God-Mode considering I ever get a playset of set 8 cards. ----_______----

Is my MP/mastery combination unique?  No...but it is pretty uncommon.  However, I have yet to see a single deck with my composition and exact playstyle (I mean it's aggro but it's a SPECIAL BRAND of aggro).  I'm not saying I'm some super special snowflake or something but I'm convinced I might be on to something and I'm on a quest to prove it!

...and lemme tell you, my opponents are always surprised or caught off guard.  If I posted the deck list, people would think I'm a crazy man (they're probably right tbh).  But it has been working very well.

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2 hours ago, Thearbiter20x6 said:

I've been working and testing a...very unusual deck in tournaments.  It has done very well so far considering its...idiosyncrasies.  It has top cut every tournament it has entered except one (freaking fracking random rogue deck that happens to have the perfect tech to ruin my steeze...still only one by one life card...).  It is currently more powerful than every and set 8 will push it into God-Mode considering I ever get a playset of set 8 cards. ----_______----

Is my MP/mastery combination unique?  No...but it is pretty uncommon.  However, I have yet to see a single deck with my composition and exact playstyle (I mean it's aggro but it's a SPECIAL BRAND of aggro).  I'm not saying I'm some super special snowflake or something but I'm convinced I might be on to something and I'm on a quest to prove it!

...and lemme tell you, my opponents are always surprised or caught off guard.  If I posted the deck list, people would think I'm a crazy man (they're probably right tbh).  But it has been working very well.

You special little snowflake. You have me curious, very curious. I predict you run a black piccolo deck, with NO DBV. <-----------that's the twist.

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7 minutes ago, LordVader said:

You special little snowflake. You have me curious, very curious. I predict you run a black piccolo deck, with NO DBV. <-----------that's the twist.

TEE HEE maybe we'll face off in a Kai event and you'll see my dirty little secret. :D

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Here are the top 8 deck lists from North Kai.

8th Place
Arvel Rowe

Orange Retribution Mastery
Gohan A New Hope 
Gohan Unlocked
Gohan Empowered
Gohan Undeniable

1 Orange Encouragement
1 Orange Burning Aura Drill 
1 Orange Steady Drill 
1 Orange Focusing Drill 
1 Orange Disaster Drill 
1 Orange Distracting Drill 
1 Orange Investigation Drill 
2 Orange Checkup Drill 
1 Orange Crying Drill 
1 Orange Possession Drill 
1 Earth Dragon Ball 7
2 Visiting The Past
1 Overwhelming Power 
2 Confrontation
1 Time Is A Warriors Tool
2 Heroic Energy Sphere
3 Orange Juke
3 Orange Bicycle Kick
1 Orange Uppercut
2 Heroic Dashing Punch
2 Wall Breaker 
2 I'll Dig Your Grave 
3 Gohan's Power Punch
2 Devestating Blow
2 Android Arm Breaker 
3 Orange Collision
3 Orange Extension
3 Orange Knee Strike
2 Orange Enraged Bash
1 Orange Charge Kick3
2 Orange Saving Kick
3 Orange Refocus
2 Orange Energy Catch
1 Puzzler

7th Place
Brandon Suchan

Orange Retribution Mastery
Trunks Protective
Trunks Frenzied
Trunks Defiant
Trunks Overpowering

3 Orange Knee Strike
3 Orange Sword Chop 
2 Orange Collision
2 Orange Bicycle Kick
3 Trunks Knee Bash
3 Trunks Sword Slash
3 Dashing Sword Attack 
2 Trunks Slam
1 Orange Tank Barrage
2 Orange Refocus
1 Orange Defense
3 Orange Power Point
3 Orange Energy Catch
1 Orange Dismissal
3 Orange Destruction
3 Orange Juke
3 Confrontation
2 Heroic Energy Sphere
1 Time Is A Warriors Tool
2 Visiting The Past
1 Orange Joint Restraint Drill 
1 Orange Distracting Drill 
1 Orange Steady Drill 
1 Orange Burning Aura Drill 
1 Orange Hiding Drill 
1 Orange Checkup Drill 
1 Orange Restructuring Drill 
1 Orange Focusing Drill 
2 Acquisition Drill 
2 Aggressive Sword Drill 
1 Quickness Drill 
1 Hidden Power Drill 

6th Place
Derek Apfel

Namekian Knowledge Mastery 
Piccolo Composed
Piccolo Combat Stance
Piccolo Ferocious
Piccolo Revitalized 

1 Namek Dragon Ball 1
1 Namek Dragon Ball 2
1 Namek Dragon Ball 3
1 Namek Dragon Ball 4
1 Namek Dragon Ball 5
1 Namek Dragon Ball 6
1 Namek Dragon Ball 7
1 Heroic Plan
1 Dragon Radar 
2 Visiting The Past
1 Namekian Wish
1 Namekian Dragon Clan 
3 Namekian Growth
1 Time Is A Warriors Tool
1 Confrontation
2 Namekian Hurried Quest
2 Heroic Energy Sphere
2 Tug Of War
3 Namekian Hybrid Defense
3 Piccolo's Weighted Clothing
3 Namekian Overtime
3 Namekian Resistance
3 Namekian Protective Posture
3 Focused Assault
3 Namekian Targeted Strike
2 Namekian Forceful Block 
2 Namekian Cover
3 Namekian Knee Block 
2 Wall Breaker 
3 Devastating Blow 
3 Namekian Right Throw

5th Place
Raymond Duvall 

Namekian Knowledge Mastery 
Cell Prepared
Cell Combative
Cell Smooth
Cell Unstoppable

1 Namek Dragon Ball 1
1 Namek Dragon Ball 2
1 Namek Dragon Ball 3
1 Namek Dragon Ball 4
1 Namek Dragon Ball 5
1 Namek Dragon Ball 6
1 Namek Dragon Ball 7
1 Dragon Radar 
1 Namekian Dragon Clan 
1 Cell Jr Trapped
1 Cell Jr Escaping
1 Cell Jr Unrelenting
1 Time Is A Warriors Tool
2 Villainous Energy Sphere
1 Villainous Visage
2 Visiting The Past
3 Cell's Provocation
2 Cell's Style
2 Cell's Draining Attack 
3 Namekian Chest Explosion
2 Namekian Onslaught
2 Namekian Aerial Knee 
2 Namekian Crushing Slam
2 Namekian Chin Grab
3 Namekian Right Throw
3 Namekian Backhand
2 Sinister Choke
3 Namekian Hybrid Defense
3 Namekian Buffer
3 Namekian Energy Guard
3 Namekian Knee Block 
2 Namekian Clamp
2 Namekian Flinch 

4th Place
Frank DeLuca

Saiyan Empowered Mastery 
Gohan A New Hope 
Gohan Strikes Back
Gohan Empowered
Gohan Martyr 

2 Visiting The Past 
1 Namek Dragon Ball 4
2 Heroic Energy Sphere
3 Unleashed
2 Saiyan Assistance
1 Saiyan Rescue
1 Saiyan Strength Test
1 Overwhelming Power 
1 Time Is A Warriors Tool
3 Saiyan Outrage
2 Saiyan Drive By
3 Saiyan Crouch 
2 Saiyan Hand Swipe
3 Saiyan Escape
3 Saiyan Arm Catch
1 Saiyan Tracking Blast
2 Focused Assault
2 Saiyan Energy Focus
3 Saiyan Prepped Ball 
3 Saiyan Rapid Fire 
3 Saiyan Ki Web
3 Saiyan Tantrum
3 Saiyan Burst
2 Wall Breaker 
2 Devastating Blow
3 Saiyan Spin Kick
3 Saiyan Severing Punch

3rd Place
Tony Murr

Orange Retribution Mastery 
Cooler Familiar Face
Cooler  Transformed
Cooler Menace 
Cooler Overlord 

2 Optic Blast
2 Sagacious Strike 
2 Orange Left Burst
3 Orange Fierce Attack 
3 Orange Stare Down 
3 Orange Power Point
2 Orange Counter Ball 
2 Blinding Energy Move
3 Cooler's Super Nova 
2 Orange Energy Absorption
2 Orange Refocus
2 Orange Dismissal
2 Villainous Energy Sphere
1 Time Is A Warriors Tool
3 Stare Down 
1 Tug Of War
2 Orange Uppercut
1 Orange Intimidating Drill 
1 Orange Energy Catch
1 Villainous Visage
1 Orange Possession Drill 
1 Orange Captivity Drill 
1 Orange Check Up Drill 
1 Orange Crying Drill 
1 Orange Examination Drill 
1 Orange Steady Drill 
1 Orange Aura Drill 
1 Orange Hiding Drill 
1 Orange Burning Aura Drill 
2 Visiting The Past
1 Earth Dragon Ball 7
2 Orange Meditation
2 Orange Juke
2 Orange Bicycle Kick
2 Orange Sweeping Blast

2nd Place
Shawn BullDozer Sons

Saiyan Empowered Mastery 
Broly Survivor
Broly Determined
Broly Legendary
Broly Relentless

2 Broly's Eraser Cannon 
3 Broly's Face Crusher
2 Devastating Blow
2 Saiyan Energy Deflection
1 Saiyan Rescue
1 Saiyan Crouch 
2 Villainous Energy Sphere
1 Saiyan Tracking Blast
3 Saiyan Backbreaker 
3 Saiyan Tantrum 
3 I'll Dig Your Grave 
3 Saiyan Grab
3 Saiyan Arm Catch
3 Saiyan Spin Kick
2 Wall Breaker 
3 Saiyan Gut Kick
3 Saiyan Trample
3 Saiyan Outrage
3 Saiyan Elbow Drop
3 Saiyan Legendary Strike
1 Tree Of Might
3 Unleashed
3 Saiyan Body Blow
3 Saiyan Severing Punch
1 Time Is A Warriors Tool

1st Place
Matt Tambor

Namekian Restored Mastery
Gohan To The Rescue
Gohan Unlocked
Gohan Empowered
Gohan Martyr 

1 Namek Dragon Ball 1
1 Namek Dragon Ball 2
1 Namek Dragon Ball 3
1 Namek Dragon Ball 4
1 Namek Dragon Ball 5
1 Namek Dragon Ball 6
1 Namek Dragon Ball 7
1 Piccolo Waiting
1 Ox King Naming Genius
1 Korin Watching From Afar
1 Kami Guardian
1 Icarus Supportive
1 Bulma Genius
1 Baba Surprise Visitor
1 ChiChi Armed And Dangerous 
2 Namekian Assistance Drill 
1 Dragon Radar 
1 Namekian Disturbance 
1 Namekian Wish
1 Namekian Dragon Clan
3 Namekian Hybrid Defense
3 Namekian Cross Guard
3 Namekian Flinch 
2 Namekian Clamp
2 Namekian Buffer
1 Time Is A Warriors Tool
2 Heroic Energy Sphere
3 Confrontation
2 Namekian Hurried Quest
2 Namekian Confident Burst
3 Namekian Maximum Will 
3 Namekian Double Strike
3 Namekian Salvo 
3 Namekian Team Up
1 Optic Blast 
3 Overpowering Attack

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On 3/28/2017 at 10:37 PM, Thearbiter20x6 said:

I've been working and testing a...very unusual deck in tournaments.  It has done very well so far considering its...idiosyncrasies.  It has top cut every tournament it has entered except one (freaking fracking random rogue deck that happens to have the perfect tech to ruin my steeze...still only one by one life card...).  It is currently more powerful than every and set 8 will push it into God-Mode considering I ever get a playset of set 8 cards. ----_______----

Is my MP/mastery combination unique?  No...but it is pretty uncommon.  However, I have yet to see a single deck with my composition and exact playstyle (I mean it's aggro but it's a SPECIAL BRAND of aggro).  I'm not saying I'm some super special snowflake or something but I'm convinced I might be on to something and I'm on a quest to prove it!

...and lemme tell you, my opponents are always surprised or caught off guard.  If I posted the deck list, people would think I'm a crazy man (they're probably right tbh).  But it has been working very well.

I am gonna guess it's Ruthless Yamcha or Ginyu with level hopping.

Maybe Ascension Trunks if you count entering combat gaining some anger and ending before your opponent can do anything.

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10 hours ago, Jaith1 said:

I hope FanZ is ready to freeze Retribution Mastery for set 9 by the way. Who would have guessed that panini made a Devious mistake again.

 

Most likely will happen with Set 10 which would be a new Mastery set anyways. 

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Retribution isn't even the problemat this point. The orange card pool is just super strong now and has all kinds of synergy with any of the masteries. Hence why there were more adept masteries played than all the black and blue masteries besides resolute. Think about that for a second. Adept  (one of the weakest masteries in the game) had an equal showing to resolute  (one of the best new masteries). And from what I heard the adept decks finished better as well.

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1 hour ago, v3rse said:

Retribution isn't even the problemat this point. The orange card pool is just super strong now and has all kinds of synergy with any of the masteries. Hence why there were more adept masteries played than all the black and blue masteries besides resolute. Think about that for a second. Adept  (one of the weakest masteries in the game) had an equal showing to resolute  (one of the best new masteries). And from what I heard the adept decks finished better as well.

 

Unfortunately, as with any other TCG, players aren't looking at the overall situation. They see something that they believe contributes solely to the problem and attack it. It's the same with BK. BK didn't break the game, he centralized it. An errata or a ban would not have fixed the BK meta. It would have still been small and there would still have only been 2-3 top decks. There just wasn't the card pool needed at the time to support a largely varied meta especially since most of the issue came from MP's with poor designs to begin with in the form of not enough effect on the game. 

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